DVD Profiler 3.0

[Cambion7]

I bought a license for Argo because I loved how I was able to use DVD Profiler 2.4 as a portable application. Well they've released version 3.0 of this application and now it won't run with Argo. I was wondering if there was a tester programmer at Ceedo that might spare a moment to look into this and see if it's something that might be fixed in a future release of Argo.

Thanks in advance,
Cam

Btw, DVDProfiler 3.0 is at http://www.invelos.com/

[exire]

Hmmm... Before I can help you, could you provide the following information:

1. What error do you get?
2. Do you run the latest version of DVD Profiler (3.0.2)?
3. What version of Ceedo Personal you use?
4. What version of Argo you use?

Version 3.0.3 (only availible to paying customers so I can't give it to you) of DVD Profiler works perfectly on my Ceedo Personal 2.0.22.

[Cambion7]

Hmmm... Before I can help you, could you provide the following information:

1. What error do you get?
2. Do you run the latest version of DVD Profiler (3.0.2)?
3. What version of Ceedo Personal you use?
4. What version of Argo you use?

Version 3.0.3 (only availible to paying customers so I can't give it to you) of DVD Profiler works perfectly on my Ceedo Personal 2.0.22.


I do not get an error. The DVDProfiler splash appears momentarily then disappears. DVD Profiler does not appear in the task list. I
I have tried both DVD Profiler official release 3.0.2 as well as Beta 3.0.3 and both fail to launch. I have a forever license with Invelos.
I am running version 2.1.0.22 paid version of Ceedo Personal.
Argo version 2.0.0.7 paid version.As I said, the splash for DVDProfiler appears then shuts down straight away. Do you have anything to suggest? It appears we may be running the same versions. BTW, the install is on a Lexar Lightning 4GB if that matters.

Thanks in advance,
Cam

[keith]

Cam,

Have you tried creating a non-hooked shortcut to the .exe file of DVD Profiler and running the program this way.

I have had issues in the past where programs would not run with either the shortcut created by the installer or by a hooked shortcut, but they ran fine with a non-hooked shortcut.

To create a non-hooked shortcut, use Argo to create a shortcut, and on the last screen, click on the Advanced button and select NH Mode.

[exire]

I do not get an error. The DVDProfiler splash appears momentarily then disappears. DVD Profiler does not appear in the task list. I
I have tried both DVD Profiler official release 3.0.2 as well as Beta 3.0.3 and both fail to launch. I have a forever license with Invelos.
I am running version 2.1.0.22 paid version of Ceedo Personal.
Argo version 2.0.0.7 paid version.As I said, the splash for DVDProfiler appears then shuts down straight away. Do you have anything to suggest? It appears we may be running the same versions. BTW, the install is on a Lexar Lightning 4GB if that matters.

Thanks in advance,
Cam

Hi there!

I actually know what you mean, as I have suddenly runned into the problem myself, and we have identical installations except for me using an Apple iPod Nano 8 GB drive.

First time I installed DVD Profiler 3.0.3 it worked fine, but next time I tried opening it, it just showed the splash screen (DVD Profilers loading screen) for maybe 2 secs then it disappeared and nothing happened. It just don't want to start anymore when trying from the Ceedo easy-access menu. Only way to get it to load and start is by navigating to the Ceedo programfiles directory and doubleclick the dvdprofiler.exe file in the DVD Profiler folder. Strange!

Have no clue actually as to why this happens. Keith?

[exire]

Hmmm... I'm starting to think that Argo doesn't work 100% with normal .exe installers either.

I created an icon through Argo and chosed NH mode: voilà, DVD Profiler starts again without any problems at all, and it starts every time!

Some questions then arise in my head:
Why do I have to enable NH mode?
Why can't Argo figure out that by itself?
Why did DVD Profiler load fine the first time, but after that I had to make a new shortcut for it to work?

Is there anything OS dependant (I'm not using english windows xp, but a localized one) that causes the problem?
Does the .exe installers contain something that Argo misses when installing normal windows software?

I'm just throwing some questions out in the air in an attempt to figure out why this occurs with some programs, but not all! Maybe Yoav could take a closer look on DVD Profiler and try to figure out why it doesn't install and work successfully on first attempt?

There has to be something with the .exe installer and Argos way of handling the install procedure that's causing the issue, as I can't seem to figure out any other explanations as to why the program fails. :)

[keith]

Kristoffer,

To be honest, I'm not sure why DVD Profiler would work and then not. Sounds like a settings change to me. Probably, neither you nor Cam made any changes in the program settings that would cause this kind of behavior.

The thing that tipped me to the possibility that a non-hooked shortcut would probably work is the fact that Cam could run the program directly from the program folder on his Ceedo drive, and in my own experience, that usually means that an NH shortcut will do the trick.

As to why Argo can't figure these things out for itself, the only explanation that I can think of is that Argo, and Ceedo itself, are still pretty much in their infancy in terms of the full potential that each in and of themselves can achieve. The version numbers speak for themselves here.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Ceedo as a whole (the sum of all its parts) will eventually become a real mini OS, and able to run just about anything you throw at it. This will take time, though.

Think of it this way, it took da Vinci around four years to paint his masterpiece, the Mona Lisa, so it is not beyond reasonable expectation for Ceedo to mature at a steady pace over the next few years. :D

Me, I'm in for the long haul where Ceedo is concerned. Or at least until Yoav, Shy and the rest of the Ceedo team get tired of me waffling on, and tell me to take a hike. :rolleyes:

[exire]

At least I didn't do any changes to DVD Profiler after installing it. I just started it from the program folder after 1. failed attempt, and that worked.

You figured it out, that's the important thing for me. :D I can live with the fact that programs sometimes fails and need a bit help (just like with babies), but it sure would be nice to figure out what's causing the issue. ;)

I like Ceedo, and it has great potensial and as you say: it will mature over time. Active development and a good community is what matters most to me, not how far you can develop a software in the shortest amount of time. :D

Hehe... don't hope they throw us out of the community for being helpful and asking questions, that would be a bit to dictatoric,a and also very consumer hostile! ;)

[keith]

They won't toss us out. I just like to throw things like that out there so that the Ceedo team knows we're thinking of them and trying to keep them young. :D My wife calls me a professional brat and a 42 year old juvenile delinquent. :rolleyes:

Y'know, we really could use an 'Off Topic' forum for just shooting the breeze and touching base with each other. Saves threads from going ... well ... off topic. Hint-Hint. :)

[exire]

Hehe... yeah, I'm not worried about keeping them young, I'm more worried about keeping them away from their job: developing Ceedo and not doing support stuff :D

Yep, we could really use an Off topic forum so we can stay at topic and not just flooding topics with daily life problems ;) and raising our post count... :D

Then we could also have a "Who am I" topic, so we now a bit more about who we are in real life, not just in cyberlife :)

[Yoav Behr]

This discussion is making me laugh so hard....We just had a meeting which its topic was how do we get more guys like Keith and Exire(Kristoffer) to join our Evaluators team. You just keep asking questions and bug us.You can't understand how big is contribution to Ceedo.
This is also a good opportunity to ask you guys that if you know of anyone who you think might be a good evaluator we will be happy if you could offer him to join the Evaluators community. We are in a search to find more guys like you who can lift Ceedo one level up.
And don't worry...I'm doing only the support staff...the guy in charge of development is Dror Wettenstein, He is the main man. We are just soldiers, He is the general.

Keep up the good work fellows!

[Cambion7]

Thanks Kristoffer and Keith. I tried the unhook method and the program launches. However it cannot find my layouts and reports because it's not looking in the correct location; it's looking at the local disk "My Documents" rather than Ceedo's "My Documents".

I did a complete format and reinstall of Ceedo, Argo, and my licenses. My first run with an unhooked DVD Profiler 3 works great, but like earlier experiments when we close it any other runs fail. I'll have to devote time at home (my boss wouldn't like me doing this at work). I think if I run a monitoring program to determine what files are being written and what changes in the registry are being made upon close, that we may have an answer.

Edit: I ran DVDProfiler 3.0 with SysInternals ProcessMonitor. I have a 119207 line CVS file of all the events, including the forced closure of the program. I'll try to see what I can figure out. If anyone wants this, let me know. I don't yet have it on a web page, but will try to get that done this evening for those interested.

Again I appreciate you both for jumping in and providing thought to a solution. It's great. :D

[keith]

Cam,

Please post your findings here. I'd like to help out more, but as was mentioned, DVD Profiler is not freeware, and unfortunately, it's not a program I'd ever use on an ongoing basis, so I can't justify purchasing it to work on getting it running in Ceedo.

You may want to consider looking for an open source alternative. Sometimes it's worth it to drop a program you've paid for in favor of an open source program that gets the job done.

The issues you are experiencing are probably linked to the config files in DVD Profiler, and finding and changing the config files by adding paths and program termination instructions may resolve the problem.

Yoav, It's good that we can give you a chuckle. :) If you're laughing while at work, you are enjoying your job.

I have a possible suggestion for an evaluator for Ceedo. This guy isn't part of the Ceedo community, though, so I hesitate to nominate him as an evaluator.

Please let General Dror :cool: know that he has our support. Ceedo is coming along quite nicely.

[exire]

Thanks Kristoffer and Keith. I tried the unhook method and the program launches. However it cannot find my layouts and reports because it's not looking in the correct location; it's looking at the local disk "My Documents" rather than Ceedo's "My Documents".

I did a complete format and reinstall of Ceedo, Argo, and my licenses. My first run with an unhooked DVD Profiler 3 works great, but like earlier experiments when we close it any other runs fail. I'll have to devote time at home (my boss wouldn't like me doing this at work). I think if I run a monitoring program to determine what files are being written and what changes in the registry are being made upon close, that we may have an answer.

Edit: I ran DVDProfiler 3.0 with SysInternals ProcessMonitor. I have a 119207 line CVS file of all the events, including the forced closure of the program. I'll try to see what I can figure out. If anyone wants this, let me know. I don't yet have it on a web page, but will try to get that done this evening for those interested.

Again I appreciate you both for jumping in and providing thought to a solution. It's great. :D



The reason DVD Profiler doesn't know your profile is because it's default database storage is in the My documents folder. To circumvent this, install DVD Profiler on your computer, then go to File-->Backup Database and save the file on a location you'll find it from (remember to place checkmarks on everything).

Close DVD Profiler, launch Ceedo then launch the DVD Profiler that you have installed on Ceedo. Go to File-->Restore Database-->Browse to your file and then restore it.

Your DB is now imported into Ceedo DVD Profiler, and there is one more thing you'll have to do: Go to File-->Open Database and make sure that the right DB is selected as default DB. Click OK when it's correct and it will be saved.

If there is something unclear then don't hesitate to ask more questions here ;)

Good luck!

[thecarboncopyman]

Hello

If you are looking for evaluators I would be more than happy to become one, I currently own a Seagate Freeagent Go 80Gb and use Ceedo pretty much everyday between my home computer running Windows Vista and Various work computers running Windows Xp Home editions. And would be more than happy to test things out for the Ceedo platform.

Most of the programs I have installed on my drive have been installed using Argo these are as follows.

Firefox
Thunderbird
Rainlender
CCleaner
Password Safe
DVD Shrink
IrfanView
Opera
Spybot Search & Destroy
Stickies

I know some of these are available through the program directory but for some reason I rather use Argo and install them probably to have the newest version etc.

I would also say that I am quite good with computers etc and think that I could help out at times, although I wouldnt say that I was a tech expert.

Anyways if you require more evalutors the offer is there if you want to take it up.

Thanks

Carboncopyman :D

[exire]

This discussion is making me laugh so hard....We just had a meeting which its topic was how do we get more guys like Keith and Exire(Kristoffer) to join our Evaluators team. You just keep asking questions and bug us.You can't understand how big is contribution to Ceedo.
This is also a good opportunity to ask you guys that if you know of anyone who you think might be a good evaluator we will be happy if you could offer him to join the Evaluators community. We are in a search to find more guys like you who can lift Ceedo one level up.
And don't worry...I'm doing only the support staff...the guy in charge of development is Dror Wettenstein, He is the main man. We are just soldiers, He is the general.

Keep up the good work fellows!

Hehe.. glad you guys have faith in us! ;)
If I'll find someone I think can help with this, then I'll ask him/her to join the community. I'll try to bring some more norwegians in here at least. :p

Ahh.. so you're the support staff man, I see.. but then we can bug you even more! :D ;)

As Keith said, tell your development boss that we appreciate the work he's/they're doing! One of Ceedos strenghts, if you ask me, is the close relationship between community and the company! :)

[exire]

Cam,

Please post your findings here. I'd like to help out more, but as was mentioned, DVD Profiler is not freeware, and unfortunately, it's not a program I'd ever use on an ongoing basis, so I can't justify purchasing it to work on getting it running in Ceedo.

You may want to consider looking for an open source alternative. Sometimes it's worth it to drop a program you've paid for in favor of an open source program that gets the job done.

The issues you are experiencing are probably linked to the config files in DVD Profiler, and finding and changing the config files by adding paths and program termination instructions may resolve the problem.

Yoav, It's good that we can give you a chuckle. :) If you're laughing while at work, you are enjoying your job.

I have a possible suggestion for an evaluator for Ceedo. This guy isn't part of the Ceedo community, though, so I hesitate to nominate him as an evaluator.

Please let General Dror :cool: know that he has our support. Ceedo is coming along quite nicely.

Just a small note: DVD Profiler is free if you can live with maximum 50 DVDs and bad image quality (paid version gives unlimited DVDs, very high image quality, and lifetime free upgrades) ;)

[keith]

Thanks for the info, Kristoffer. I'll have to check that out.

[exire]

Thanks for the info, Kristoffer. I'll have to check that out.

No problem. DVD Profiler is by far the best DVD archiving tool I've ever tried. The company have a big community of users willing to help you out with problems, questions etc, and they have frequent program updates.

it's also easy to add DVDs. Just fill out the bar code that is placed on the back of the DVDs and DVD Profiler will automatically download all availible information about the movie from an online database of over 290 000 unique DVDs. You should have a very special taste if you don't find the DVD in their database. And if you don't find it, you could always add it manually yourself. :)

[keith]

Sounds pretty good. I'll definitely take a look at the program. I've been meaning to start a DVD collection to augment my single DVD, 'The Day After Tomorrow', and maybe this program will motivate me to do this. :)

Yes, I know I'm odd. From the time I left home at the age of seventeen until I got married at the age of thirty-four, I never had a TV in my home. Now that there is a TV (my wife's), I barely notice its existence.

True story, guys.

[Cambion7]

For what it's worth

http://www.mytempdir.com/1343342

This is a zip of a CSV log file obtained using DVDProfiler 3.03 under Argo. Unfortunately Excel doesn't allow for all of the rows this file contains. So either open it with Notepad (turn off word-wrap), or import it into an MS Access data table if you're interested in seeing what happens during the process of launch then crash (close).

Regards,
Cam

[exire]

For what it's worth

http://www.mytempdir.com/1343342

This is a zip of a CSV log file obtained using DVDProfiler 3.03 under Argo. Unfortunately Excel doesn't allow for all of the rows this file contains. So either open it with Notepad (turn off word-wrap), or import it into an MS Access data table if you're interested in seeing what happens during the process of launch then crash (close).

Regards,
Cam

Did you try my suggestion some posts above here? It didn't work out? :)

Edit: Wow..! Yoav: you'd better have a good logfile anylysiz tool, cause this log contains 119 203 rows!! Hehe... :D ;)

[Cambion7]

Did you try my suggestion some posts above here? It didn't work out? :)

Edit: Wow..! Yoav: you'd better have a good logfile anylysiz tool, cause this log contains 119 203 rows!! Hehe... :D ;)
Yeah it didn't quite work. I am sorry for the large log file. As I said the only way is to either open in notepad with wordwrap off, or import into an Access or maybe OpenOffice database file. It has me stumped to say the least. I did see that Invelos just released an official 3.0.3 build 1136. I'll give that a try.

Cam

[exire]

Yeah it didn't quite work. I am sorry for the large log file. As I said the only way is to either open in notepad with wordwrap off, or import into an Access or maybe OpenOffice database file. It has me stumped to say the least. I did see that Invelos just released an official 3.0.3 build 1136. I'll give that a try.

Cam

It works like a charm in Excel 2007! :D

Try this with the new build:

The reason DVD Profiler doesn't know your profile is because it's default database storage is in the My documents folder. To circumvent this, install DVD Profiler on your computer, then go to File-->Backup Database and save the file on a location you'll find it from (remember to place checkmarks on everything).

Close DVD Profiler, launch Ceedo then launch the DVD Profiler that you have installed on Ceedo. Go to File-->Restore Database-->Browse to your file and then restore it.

Your DB is now imported into Ceedo DVD Profiler, and there is one more thing you'll have to do: Go to File-->Open Database and make sure that the right DB is selected as default DB. Click OK when it's correct and it will be saved.

If there is something unclear then don't hesitate to ask more questions here ;)

Good luck!

[exire]

Sounds pretty good. I'll definitely take a look at the program. I've been meaning to start a DVD collection to augment my single DVD, 'The Day After Tomorrow', and maybe this program will motivate me to do this. :)

Yes, I know I'm odd. From the time I left home at the age of seventeen until I got married at the age of thirty-four, I never had a TV in my home. Now that there is a TV (my wife's), I barely notice its existence.

True story, guys.

Hehe... well you know: not everyone on this earth finds TV, movies or cinema fun, so I guess you're one of them ;)

Think of all the movies and tv'shows you're missing! Friends, LOST, the bachelor, Shawshank redemption, animal planet, discovery channel, national geographic channel etc.. :D I couldn't live without them! ;)

[keith]

Watching TV would me away from my computer. Hmmm ... Spending time with my wife does that, too. :D

But seriously, though, I will sit down and watch a movie every once in a while, but by and large, there isn't much on TV that is worth watching, or that I can't see online.